Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Canvas or Nylon for family camping?

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Jack


Hello, I'm new to this forum but not new to camping. I have had a Eureka Timberline 4 for 20 + yrs and still do. It has been a great tent.

But now I'm married and two kids ( 11 & 13 ) and am looking for a new tent.

We don't camp much (4 - 6) times a yr and in the spring and fall, and I have a wife thats cold all the time so we might be useing my buddy heater some in the fall.

We don't plan on going when it's to hot or if there is to much rain forcast. I guess we are fair weather campers. We only stay out 1 or 2 nights at a time and in camp grounds.

I would like a tent I can stand up in and move around (im 6') and have plenty of room for gear. So Im looking at a cabin style.

I think I have it narrowed down to two tents but thought I would ask before we buy.

Looking at the Eureka Titan
Or the Kodiak Canvas 9x12

So my question................would it fit us better to go Nylon or Canvas ?

Thanks for any insight and suggestions.



Answer
A 9X12 is a bit large for many level tent pads, and you have to be very careful with Eureka as the will mix in poor tents with their good ones. A 6-man around 10X10 will fit the bill. If you don't mind lugging bulkier heavy tents that only require a single wall, canvas is your friend. If space and weight are a consideration and you like a double-walled structure, polyester or nylon will be fine. Look for continuous zippers, full vestibules, plenty of mesh for ventilation, double doors, and a lot of vertical room - avoid tents with no more than 2 supporting poles unless unless structural integrity and rustling fabric at night don't bother you. With canvas there aren'y many changes over the years, so brands like Kodiak won't steer you wrong. I moved on from canvas decades ago, so I'm not a good authority on brands and features.

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Jack


This Summer I am taking a seven or eight day trip up the coast of California and then across the state into The Sierras to meet up with family to fish the lakes and streams. I currently have a 5x7 Alps Taurus 2 which is fine for a night or two, but not for a week. Iâm 6â2â and 250 lbs and with my bedroll there is not enough room to bring in all my MC gear out of the elements.

So, Iâm thinking maybe an 8x8 4-man tent with at least a 5â center height. I donât need to be able to stand straight up to change clothes, but I donât want to have to bend at the waist, either.

The packed diameter is not that much of an issue, nor is the weight. But, the main compartment of my duffel is 24â long and I need my tent to fit in that.

I have a small Coleman Cat Heater that I would use to take the chill off when up in the mountains. Weâve tried that heater in our trailer and in a 10x10 tent. Useless. But it does work well in my 5x7. Maybe it will work in a 4-man, too.

A vestibule would be good, but not necessary. One or two doors; doesnât matter. Aluminum poles are preferable.

Iâd like to stay under $200; $150 or lower would be better. But, Iâll spend more for the perfect tent if needed.

I think I like both the Kelty Trail Ridge 4 and the Big Agnes Jupiterâs Cabin 4. The Kelty is $50 cheaper but the Big Agnes packs a little smaller.

Any recommendations? Or comments on the two mentioned above?



Answer
I have a four-person 9x8 Pacific Crest Rock Creek dome tent that I used on my solo motor camping trip to the Arctic Circle in AK two years ago, and that I will be taking on my planned ride to Panama this spring. I really like it. It works great, and to me is the best combo of price, quality, size, weight, packability, and ease of one-person deployment (I have no trouble putting it up or taking it down alone). It's also very light and compact for its size, measuring right at 24" when in its carry bag.

I use a twin air mattress when I travel by bike (a comfy, good night's sleep is critical), and it has plenty of room inside for that and all of my gear with room left over for changing clothes or whatever. The height at the peak at 52" is a little less than five feet, but I'm 6-2 and it works fine for me.

My previous tent was a three-person dome, but one of the main ridge poles broke while putting it up one evening and I had to replace the whole tent in a small town on the road. I couldn't find another three-person tent since there was only one sporting goods store in that town, and it was kind of a small family-run place with a very limited selection (not complaining - there could have been no selection at all). I was a little worried about bumping up to a four person tent as I thought it might be a little too big and bulky for MC camping, and my three-person had worked so well (other than a balky main zipper).

In reality, I like the four person tent even more than my three, so the broken ridge pole was a blessing in disguise. Aside from being a bit roomier without being TOO big, the Pacific Crest is also higher quality than my last tent, which probably explains the broken ridge pole and balky zipper on the old one.

Best of all? The Pacific Crest Rock Creek is less than $60 from several sources online. I paid $69 for mine at the small town store two years ago, which I still consider a good deal for what I got, especially in a pinch.




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