Jacob
so we're planning to go on a family vacation in british colombia, we live in victoria BC and we don't want to go far aways because we don't really like traveling, its going to be a 2 week vacation, whats a good family fun place in here ? 3 adults and 2 teenagers and one child if that matters, we just want to go a day maybe fishing and a day on the beach and something like that, i know its not enough info so just give an estimate
Answer
Assuming you have a mini-van/SUV capable of holding six people... gas would be $50/day if you are driving, you are looking at around $300 for a ferry off the island (and back), food is around $200/day, hotels around $250/day (assuming two rooms), etc.
Something like camping would obviously be less expensive. Food is significantly less and you wouldn't need hotels. Picking someone on the island saves on the ferry. Something like Long Beach/Pacific Rim Park in Toffino or Rath Trevor in Parksville. As long as you have the tents, you would be looking at $200/day for a camp site and food. If you don't want to rough it, you can look at cabin/condo rentals in those areas. More around $300/day with food. You could also likely rent an RV or trailer.
Likely the least expensive holiday would run $2000 for the two weeks of camping. Add a few cabin/condo rentals and the price would likely be in the $3000 range. Hotels and a lot of driving, more in the $4000 range.
Note that things like fishing can get extremely expensive for six people rather quickly. A salmon fishing license is $13 (free for those under 16) and a boat charter for 6 people could easily run $300 a day.
Assuming you have a mini-van/SUV capable of holding six people... gas would be $50/day if you are driving, you are looking at around $300 for a ferry off the island (and back), food is around $200/day, hotels around $250/day (assuming two rooms), etc.
Something like camping would obviously be less expensive. Food is significantly less and you wouldn't need hotels. Picking someone on the island saves on the ferry. Something like Long Beach/Pacific Rim Park in Toffino or Rath Trevor in Parksville. As long as you have the tents, you would be looking at $200/day for a camp site and food. If you don't want to rough it, you can look at cabin/condo rentals in those areas. More around $300/day with food. You could also likely rent an RV or trailer.
Likely the least expensive holiday would run $2000 for the two weeks of camping. Add a few cabin/condo rentals and the price would likely be in the $3000 range. Hotels and a lot of driving, more in the $4000 range.
Note that things like fishing can get extremely expensive for six people rather quickly. A salmon fishing license is $13 (free for those under 16) and a boat charter for 6 people could easily run $300 a day.
Are police allowed to attack peaceful protesters in Canada?
Justin
Specifically in Ontario... if people are protesting, example occupy wall street, and they are just sitting around or yelling into mics not fighting or throwing stuff, why do police still attack them?
Answer
In Canada we have laws and we empower police with enforcing laws. It would be illegal for police to attack some who wasn't breaking the law.
Fortunately, Canada and Ontario have a number of laws such as loitering, littering, squatting, blocking public access, health violations, camping in public parks, destruction of public property, public deification (pissing and pooping in the park), disturbing the peace, public consumption of alcohol, unlawful assembly, etc. And the police are required to enforce those laws also.
And when courts rule that such actions are illegal and the police hand out notices to stop committing those illegal acts and you don't comply, the police are empowered to use force in order to get them to stop committing those crimes and/or to arrest them.
If the protesters were "just" peacefully sitting on the sidewalk, the police wouldn't have 'attacked' them. In fact, they wouldn't have gotten any media attention and no one would have heard of them.
No, they were committing numerous offenses. They pitched tents, camped over night, destroyed the lawn, left huge piles of garbage, made noise all night, had alcohol and drugs, had propane and stoves going, etc. They tore apart sprinkler systems for drinking water, resulting in burst pipes and mud-pits, They cut off tree branches for firewood. They parked a 25' kitchen outside the place -- no permits. Nearby stores and buildings were vandalized. Dozens of events at the parks had to be canceled, families couldn't use it, etc. Needles were found around the park. After several serious reported crimes (an attempted rape, one stabling, and two men arrested on drug charges) and several hundred complaints by neighbours, businesses, and citizens.... police had to have a constant presence. Courts repeatedly issued warnings, eviction notices, and eventually told the police to evict the squatters.
The total cost was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Your claim that they were just "sitting around" is at variance with the known facts.
In Canada we have laws and we empower police with enforcing laws. It would be illegal for police to attack some who wasn't breaking the law.
Fortunately, Canada and Ontario have a number of laws such as loitering, littering, squatting, blocking public access, health violations, camping in public parks, destruction of public property, public deification (pissing and pooping in the park), disturbing the peace, public consumption of alcohol, unlawful assembly, etc. And the police are required to enforce those laws also.
And when courts rule that such actions are illegal and the police hand out notices to stop committing those illegal acts and you don't comply, the police are empowered to use force in order to get them to stop committing those crimes and/or to arrest them.
If the protesters were "just" peacefully sitting on the sidewalk, the police wouldn't have 'attacked' them. In fact, they wouldn't have gotten any media attention and no one would have heard of them.
No, they were committing numerous offenses. They pitched tents, camped over night, destroyed the lawn, left huge piles of garbage, made noise all night, had alcohol and drugs, had propane and stoves going, etc. They tore apart sprinkler systems for drinking water, resulting in burst pipes and mud-pits, They cut off tree branches for firewood. They parked a 25' kitchen outside the place -- no permits. Nearby stores and buildings were vandalized. Dozens of events at the parks had to be canceled, families couldn't use it, etc. Needles were found around the park. After several serious reported crimes (an attempted rape, one stabling, and two men arrested on drug charges) and several hundred complaints by neighbours, businesses, and citizens.... police had to have a constant presence. Courts repeatedly issued warnings, eviction notices, and eventually told the police to evict the squatters.
The total cost was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Your claim that they were just "sitting around" is at variance with the known facts.
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